SPOILER ALERT: Don't read unless you're way the heck into Dragonfly and Amber.
OK so my Outlander peeps and I have been debating which Jamie we like better. We've all come to the conclusion we like smelly, stable-working Jamie better than hob-nobbing-with-the-Bourgeoisie Jamie... no matter how good he smells. I think it's because he's in his own element. France Jamie is just not a comfortable Jamie in my eyes.
OH and I came up with such a good parallel whilst in yoga this AM. How ironic that the man who wanted Claire to cover up her womanly goodies with a fan at Versailles was the same man who ripped her dress half off in front of 30+ men as a scare tactic with the 16 year old English soldier in the Highlands. Pretty interesting turn of events, don'tcha think?!
DISCUSS!
We've all come to the conclusion we like smelly, stable-working Jamie better than hob-nobbing-with-the-Bourgeoisie Jamie... no matter how good he smells.
ReplyDeleteI agree.
Yes I wasn't too fond of the "High class french" Jamie myself. And I must say, when Jamie was upset over Claire making "Payment" for getting his butt out of prison, all I could think of was him in that brothel basically blowing the whole thing off. He even admitted to wanting those women! Claire had no interest whatsoever in sex- she "did it for Jamie"!
ReplyDeleteDid Claire do it for Jamie or for their cause of trying to prevent the 2nd rising in Scotland?
DeleteLOL dinna get Carol started re: the doghouse Jamie was in over the brothel incident. Personally, it didn't bother me that much--I knew he couldn't blow his cover, and had faith that he wouldn't act on anything.
ReplyDeleteAgree with the icky "high class French" Jamie tho. I'm not a big fan of 18th century bourgeois Paris anyway, so having J/C hanging out there tried my patience quite a little bit.
Oh. My. GOD!!! I went NUTS over the brothel. TOTALLY great point about the brothel vs Louie. I'm sorry, but you come home with hickies and scratches on your thighs... and I'm thinking you've cheated. And I'm no prude. But come ON! The White Lady story made me feel a little better though. But still. And I was so mad when he had a problem with Louie. I mean really. Did you ever see The Getaway with Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger? (I think it was a remake.) The same type of thing happened - and he got MAD at her for doing it to get him out of prison. Truly unbelievable. Men don't get it. (LOL I act like these are real men.)
ReplyDeleteI like rustic Jamie, too...maybe best of all when he's barely even Jamie, as in MacTavish...but French Jamie is okay too, mostly because all of that happens after we think he was killed at Culloden. Any Jamie will, do, you know? And, as he often says, he is an educated man...a man of many talents...I like all the courtly stuff, because they are together, and something is at stake..call me contrarian... :D
ReplyDeleteI just finished Dragonfly today. So it's fresh in my mind and I will most likely comment on all of your posts about the book (just so you're forwarned :). I am so glad that someone else agrees with me on the Paris thing. Wigs on men? Yuck. Basically the whole culture in France during that time period just reeks of excess and self indulgence and, frankly, BO covered up with smelly oils. No thanks. I'll go with Castle Leoch/Lallybroch Jamie anyday.
ReplyDeleteJenny - did you FREAK at the end of Dragonfly?? I cried for two hours!!!!
DeleteTOTALLY love your points. Ew, ew and ew. Jamie Fraser is no 18th century Frenchman. No way.